Multiple pre-moves and duck chess and analysis improvements.

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to make a post about how I think that Lichess could improve their site. I would've done this in blogs, but I'm not old enough.

Firstly, I think there should be multiple pre-moves in Lichess, as it would be a QoL thing. (This is just my opinion, and you can state yours below if you want.) I have this annoying thing, where I'm not focusing on the time in a game, and I'm fully winning but I have a few seconds left and just have to make moves, and it's annoying. Say you have a forced checkmate sequence you found, but you only have 0.3 seconds left on the clock. I use a trackpad, and don't have enough time to move in order to win, which is quite annoying, because yes I can make a pre-move, but then they'll start pre-moving and I won't have enough time to setup the pre-moves, as I have to move my cursor across the screen quite a few times. If you could all get that done at once, it would be much easier. Yet again, I am less experienced in chess and would like to hear other point of views.

Secondly, I think duck chess should be a Lichess variant. I've heard from a friend (NOT saying this is true, please feel free to correct me) that Lichess had variants, and that Chess.com wanted to get in on the fun, so they started having them too. And one of the greatest variants, is called "Duck Chess" where after every move, you place an immovable duck on the board that can't be moved until the after the opposing player makes their turn, and you can't have the duck in the same place twice. I don't think that Chess.com can really get mad at this, as they can't really put a trade mark on the word "Duck" in front of chess. At least I don't they can. It's a very fun game mode

Thirdly, I think they should have things like "Great move" and "Brilliant move" in the analysis. It's something that you have to pay for on Chess.com, and I do not like that, as I don't think 10 bucks a month on chess is a good investment. I think it would help people figure out "Oh, Stockfish likes this to a certain degree. Now why and how does it like it? Oh! It says it right there!". And I think it would help players get better at chess, and also it would be good for youtube thumbnails and help promote the site.

In conclusion, this is why I think that these few things should be added to Lichess, as I think they would be quality of life improvements. No, this is not for a school project, but in the future I might make it one. Buh-bye.

1. Multi-premoves are banned by Lichess.
2. Lichess will not be adding any variants soon.
3. These so-called "great" and "brilliant" moves are extremely difficult to define and it is not worth the coding hardships to simply add a basically negligible change.

@InkyDarkBird said in #2:
> 1. Multi-premoves are banned by Lichess.
> 2. Lichess will not be adding any variants soon.
> 3. These so-called "great" and "brilliant" moves are extremely difficult to define and it is not worth the coding hardships to simply add a basically negligible change.

Good to know, thanks.

1. Multi-premoves isn't the answer, playing with increment is. You've played a lot of 5+0 but maybe switch to 5+3, and you won't have the problem you experienced.

2. There is another site pychess with the same interface as lichess that has variants including duck chess.

3. The main purpose of post-game analysis is to show how your valuation was in particular positions and where you or your opponent could have found better moves.

@InkyDarkBird said in #2:
> 1. Multi-premoves are banned by Lichess.
> 2. Lichess will not be adding any variants soon.
> 3. These so-called "great" and "brilliant" moves are extremely difficult to define and it is not worth the coding hardships to simply add a basically negligible change.

why are multi-premoves banned?

@SGSchool1 see lichess.org/page/play-extensions

Friendly reminder that chesscom premoves take off a second and lichess premoves are free, as they should be. So free multipremoves have a lot greater effect ...

Generally chesscom does many things very badly, we don't need the brilliant move shenanigans (can already see the threads "why was this a brilliant move/not a brilliant move")
Copying chesscom's accuracy values was a bad idea already

@Cedur216 said in #7:
> @SGSchool1 see lichess.org/page/play-extensions
>
> Friendly reminder that chesscom premoves take off a second and lichess premoves are free, as they should be. So free multipremoves have a lot greater effect ...
>
> Generally chesscom does many things very badly, we don't need the brilliant move shenanigans (can already see the threads "why was this a brilliant move/not a brilliant move")
> Copying chesscom's accuracy values was a bad idea already

i wouldnt want the chess.com accuracy values i was just wondering about the premoves. Thanks for the info! :D

@Cedur216 said in #7:
> @SGSchool1 see lichess.org/page/play-extensions
>
> Friendly reminder that chesscom premoves take off a second and lichess premoves are free, as they should be. So free multipremoves have a lot greater effect ...
>
> Generally chesscom does many things very badly, we don't need the brilliant move shenanigans (can already see the threads "why was this a brilliant move/not a brilliant move")
> Copying chesscom's accuracy values was a bad idea already
good to know. thank you :)

@cashcow8 said in #4:
> 1. Multi-premoves isn't the answer, playing with increment is. You've played a lot of 5+0 but maybe switch to 5+3, and you won't have the problem you experienced.
>
> 2. There is another site pychess with the same interface as lichess that has variants including duck chess.
>
> 3. The main purpose of post-game analysis is to show how your valuation was in particular positions and where you or your opponent could have found better moves.
tbf, pychess is pretty dead. but it would be good to play with friends with, so thanks. And thank you for the feedback, very helpful :)