Berserking is "poor sportsmanship?"

@Paco67 what link REALLY means is that when you create a tourney, you just add advanced settings at the bottom, and turn off berserk!

Ok, @DoItForTheZH and @Link , when someone create a tourney it is posible set turn off berserk.
But, I am always talking about lichess tournaments.

@DollaHollaAtcha That makes no sense, as Leon pointed out if it really was an advantage people would play super fast even with a lot of time since supposedly that gives them more time. Obviously no one does that since it's ridiculous, from that we can deduce that playing so fast (berserk or not) is not an advantage but rather a disadvantage.

If you just look at the data, someone calculated some time back that berserking "costs" somewhere between 100 and 200 rating points. If your strength lead is bigger than that you'll obviously still win more than the opponent but that's due to strength difference and not berserking.

The point people seem to make is that the berserker can ponder on the opponents time but that's never ever close to as efficient as when the opponent moved already since you don't know what he's gonna play. If it's an obvious move he'll play fast anyway, if it's not you'll also have a hard time guessing what he'll play thus you can't calculate very effectively.

For many people berserking makes tournaments more attractive and for strong players it makes it more of a challenge against weaker players. While a no-berserk option would be possible it very likely wouldn't be used much and lichess has repeatedly decided to remove little played tournament modes (like Swiss system tournaments) to prevent too many too small tournaments.

@Paco67 lichess just wants to give people freedom. Freedom to berserk!

What is 'berserking'? Is it making pre-moves?

cuts your time in half, but gives 1 extra point

Which is now berseck rate in tournaments? It seems be lower than 30%. If this is true, most people prefer no-berseck.

I admit that it can be fun, for some players, but for me only is a strange feature. In real life is not common see these kind of tourneys.

To conclude this topic, at least for me, I do not try to convince anyone which one the best or worst is, but it would be nice to have non-berseck tournaments too.

Thanks to all, for the debate.

@DollaHollaAtcha @The-Chess-Death-Cult When I see that my best chance to win is to flag my opponent, I'll move fast without bothering if I have a lot of time to think, because I understand the opponent can also think on my time. To prevent opponent's pondering is an integral element of time management, and if someone can't use it without berserking, it doesn't mean that berserking is the advantage. What you really mean is that berserking is not such a big disadvantage as "to think twice less time", because the opponent pondering time is decreased when I berserk and my pondering time is not. However, it is obvious that using pondering time to think is less effective than allocated for you, so taking berserk is clearly a disadvantage.

To put it another way: if there are no berserks in the tournament, I can precommit to use only half of my time anyway and resign if I spend more. Except for the number of points I get, this has no difference from berserk-only mode. It is ridiculous to think though that such a strategy can increase my chances to win a game because my opponent cannot think on my time as before anymore.

@Paco67 What do you mean when you say "it would be nice to have non-berseck tournaments too"? People can create and actually create such tournaments. If you mean there should be official non-berserk tournaments like "Hourly Non-Berserk Superblitz Arena", I don't think these will be really popular or change anything.

@Wolfram_EP . That's it: official non-berserk tournaments. About your opinion that "it won't be really popular..." ok it is only your opinion. People play what Lichess offers, if all Lichess tournaments were non-berserk, be sure people play it. The isuue is there is no choice now.

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